ZiPS Bidding System

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:11 pm

We're going to do something a bit different this year. We're going to do a bidding system with ZiPS projected players.

Each team will receive a $30 budget for the ENTIRE offseason. As soon as FanGraphs releases a batch of ZiPS projections, each player will be on waivers for 24 hours.

If the 24 hours passes and a player does not receive a bid, he is then a free agent and can be signed normally.

Bidding on a player will end 24 hours after the last bid. This will prevent sniping.

We will set up a forum to post players to bid on. It'll be done in the forum to have 100% transparency.

If you want to bid on a player, post a thread with the player's name as the subject and then an opening bid.

Rockies · Post by **Rockies** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:17 pm

This is awesome. Great job guys. I would have one request. When Zips are released for a team, perhaps a thread can be posted by ExCo about that team's Zips - with a link to the page so everyone can access view. That way there's a formal announcement of that team's zips being released.

Cheers.

...edit.. some kind of announcement that a new zips has been posted.. Can be whatever, but I think this might be helpful for some of us.

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:21 pm

Rockies wrote:some kind of announcement that a new zips has been posted.. Can be whatever, but I think this might be helpful for some of us.

Maybe someone will be up for volunteering for this but you can consider a bid to the the equivalent of that announcement.

RedSox · Post by **RedSox** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:57 pm

What increments? $1, .1, .01

Tradable?

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:02 pm

Hey guys...just absolutely love this. Great work by exco.

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:02 pm

Whole dollar increments.

Haven't discussed trading - they're not in OOPSS currently and Shawn would have to build that out. So for now, no.

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:56 pm

Nice, stoked!

Twins · Post by **Twins** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:54 am

Excellent. I love this.

Nationals · Post by **Nationals** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:32 am

Just to be clear, is a bid of $0 legal? Essentially making a claim on the player while the bidding window is still open.

Guardians · Post by **Guardians** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:26 am

Twins wrote:Just to be clear, is a bid of $0 legal? Essentially making a claim on the player while the bidding window is still open.

Correct. And if two teams tie with the highest bid for a player, the lower waiver priority team will be awarded that player.

A team can bid between $0 and $30 on any player as long as that team has the amount of bidding money available in their zips budget.

If a team overcommits its budget (ie: has $10 remaining and bids $10 on two individual players, for $20 worth of bids), the player whose auction ends first will be awarded to that team if it is the high bidder at $10. If that results in the second $10 bid being nullified, the runner-up team will be awarded that player.

Rockies · Post by **Rockies** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:53 am

Rangers wrote:
Rockies wrote:some kind of announcement that a new zips has been posted.. Can be whatever, but I think this might be helpful for some of us.
Maybe someone will be up for volunteering for this but you can consider a bid to the the equivalent of that announcement.

Fair enough!

Again, kudos guys.. this system sounds fair.. and even better.. it sounds fun. A little added activity to the offseason. Maybe it works flawlessly, maybe it needs some adjustments and tinkering going forward, but its a *fantastic* step in the right direction - and I just want to say I appreciate it.

BlueJays · Post by **BlueJays** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:57 pm

sounds complicated, best of luck to the ExCo managing it

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:18 pm

Orioles wrote:sounds complicated, best of luck to the ExCo managing it

Yup. And idiotic. just use the waiver system. Simple, logical.

Orioles · Post by **Orioles** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:43 pm

Guardians · Post by **Guardians** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:27 am

REMINDER: It appears ZiPs will begin being released tomorrow, per ZiPSman Szymbrowski's tweeting. Reminder that any ZIPS-related pickups must go through the established ZiPS bidding process that has been developed for this year. We will post ZIPs upon release to the Transactions page.

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:13 am

So, we're going to start the signing freeze for individual teams and ZiPS starting on the minute ZiPS man tweets his comp spreadsheet.

The clock will still expire 24 hours after last bid on a player, OR 24 hours after FanGraphs posts the projections (if nobody has bid on a player).

Orioles · Post by **Orioles** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:42 am

Can you email the ZiPs spreadsheet to the league?

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:50 am

Sure, I can start doing that.

The comp sheet is just this, though: https://twitter.com/DSzymborski/status/ ... 1632171008

Cubs · Post by **Cubs** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:57 am

Pirates wrote:So, we're going to start the signing freeze for individual teams and ZiPS starting on the minute ZiPS man tweets his comp spreadsheet.

The clock will still expire 24 hours after last bid on a player, OR 24 hours after FanGraphs posts the projections (if nobody has bid on a player).

So wouldn't this make the last two signings invalid as Belisle and Rzepcynski were both signed after his tweet at 1:13 AM yesterday?

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:00 am

It would, but the rule just went in now. I don't feel comfortable making them release players. It is pretty lame to circumvent the spirit of our rule, but we'll do it like this going forward and the two relievers can stay on their respective team.

Reds · Post by **Reds** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:51 am

I never looked at the comps (which are generally useless), just saw the Nationals were the first team up and researched their end of season roster.

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:46 pm

Tigers wrote:
Twins wrote:Just to be clear, is a bid of $0 legal? Essentially making a claim on the player while the bidding window is still open.
If two teams tie with the highest bid for a player, the lower waiver priority team will be awarded that player.

I just wanted to reiterate this, since it was brought up today in a question to me privately.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:32 am

After viewtopic.php?p=60888#60888 I'm wondering whether the freeze should apply to all players on the team or just those in the depth chart image.

RedSox · Post by **RedSox** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:37 am

Pretty sure it wasn't the depth chart image. The freeze is supposed to start when Zippy posts the first comp sheet.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:53 am

Ahh right. Carry on then.