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He's asked to have the Harvey picked reversed. I'm inclined to say no, because he should know the MLB Rules and thus should have been thinking when he drafted him. He wasn't thinking and IMO I see no reason to reverse it.

If you guys do want to allow it to be reversed, I would suggest doing it at the end of a round and not during the middle of it. That would probably be the only ground I would come to on it.
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Yea i'm 50/50 on undoing it. End of round sounds more fair to me.
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Was Harvey in the draft list we produced?
If so, I say we reverse the pick immediately as that's our mistake, he shouldn't have been in the list in the first place.
If not, end of the round. he should know the rules and Harvey not being in the list should have tipped him off.
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It should be irrelevant that he was in the list. The list was of all the drafted players. Harvey was drafted. HE shouldn't have been there, no, but he was high profile enough that John should have known better.
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Harvey was in the list, but that was a list of all drafted players. I believe we had explicitly said that we would not be weeding out players who did not sign, that it would be the GM's job to check.
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Fair enough.
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I'm also inclined to say sucks to be you, a guy's signing status is probably a pretty important thing for a GM to be aware of. The only time a pick should be reversed is in the case of an obvious misclick such as you were going for David Price and you clicked on Mark Price or some such thing.
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I wouldn't have a problem with that either.
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I'm with Jake on this I believe.
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The list is 1600+ players. Some of them signed with teams, some of them didn't. if anyon finds this useful for anything other than draft queuing, I'll be amazed.
I just read through the thread where we talked about this issue, and here is what I found. Since it was made clear in a public thread that not everyone on that list is signed, I think we're done here. That being said, I also wouldn't oppose a compromise like giving him the last pick of the draft or something.
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Is that rule available anywhere on our site or anything? If it is, he is out of luck. If it isn't I can sort of understand where he's coming from, but he still should have asked. I remember asking Shawn about all of that when I joined my first SIM league and was going to draft someone like that.
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III. Drafts
1. Annual Rookie Drafts
A. Prior to the start of each season a universal new player draft will be held. The order will be determined by the records of the teams from the previous season with the worst team picking first. Ties will be broken by Pythagorean winning percentage, head to head record and then finally record in the last ten days of the season.
B. Player's subject to the draft will include any player who had not been part of an MLB organization before the start of the prior calendar year. (EXAMPLE: If a player had not been signed to a contract prior to 2006 then he is eligible for the IBC 2006 draft, which is held in January 2007).
1. Following the completion of the IBC draft, any players who were drafted by or signed to a contract by an MLB team during the prior calendar year (in 2006 for the example above) or earlier may be signed as free agents.
2. A player will be returned to the draft pool for the next season under the following conditions. If the player was drafted by an MLB team and does not sign a new contract before the next MLB draft (the 2007 MLB draft in the example above). If the player is a Cuban defector or is from another professional league such as Japan, Korea or Mexico and does not sign a contract with an MLB team by opening day (Opening Day of the 2007 season in the example above). If the does not fall under one of these two categories, he must have signed a contract with an MLB team prior to January first of that year (prior to January 1st of 2007 in the example above).
C. The draft will continue for as many rounds as members wish to participate. Once a member misses a pick, he will be skipped from there on out unless they clearly indicate an interest and dedication to continue to draft.
D. Draft Picks are not tradable. Drafted Players are also not tradable until after the 5th round of the draft, provided both GM's have declared they have finished drafting. Violations may be met with sanctions.
Obviously Harvey won't be signing by the next draft. The way I read the rules Harvey was eligible to be drafted, as he was drafted in the 2007 MLB draft, and he will be returned to the draft pool when the 2008 draft takes place, but he will be ineligible to be drafted at that time. There's definitely no chance he gets signed in time for next year's draft.
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Jim's having some problems getting to the IBC site so he wanted me to pass this along:
Jim: Before I got into this situation I was going to agree to restore the Rockies pick (#78) at the end of the current round ...
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