League overturning trade

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:16 am

Thinking about that ridiculous Schiling deal again brought up something...
How long is too long for the league to overturn a deal? We should probably set a time limit. With that, do we overturn deals that followed as well? If not, basically, we could be looking at a loophole where I can make a lopsided trade, trade away one of the guys I got and then my first trade is not possible to be overturned by league vote. We should probably make some rules regarding this.

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:10 pm

In the past I've gone with a week for overturning approved deals, particularly during the season, otherwise you run the risk of a player playing for a team then having to be traded back and do you resim those games or not. It's also in the rules still that a trade, when reviewed by the TRC, should be judged based on it's merit at the time it was completed, rather than anything that may have occurred since then (i.e. injuries, death, release of projections, an MLB ttrade making a player suddenly more valuable, throwing a no-hitter, etc.)

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:10 pm

That doesn't address consecutive moves though (for instance Kennedy's movement lately). We have to let trades occur, but we also have to let votes happen.

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:17 pm

We've overturned trades in the past that effected trades that occurred after them. The deal just gets undone.
Are you suggesting one of the Kennedy deals should not be allowed?

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:32 pm

I think Shawn (well hope Shawn) was just using it as a chain reaction example. Neither of those Kennedy trades are egrecious.

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:36 pm

That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure. I think the second was stupid, but bad enough to be overturned? Probably not.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:38 pm

Just using it as an example because it's what made me think about it.

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:47 pm

Do we want to add something to the rules setting a time limit on when an objection can be raised?

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:43 pm

RedSox wrote:Do we want to add something to the rules setting a time limit on when an objection can be raised?

I am not one to want to see open wounds fester ... I think 3 days is long enough and would propose the following:

Approved trades may also be appealed if at least 5 members call for a leaguewide vote on the approved trade within the next 84 hours after an approved trade is posted on OOPPS.

84 hours is actually 3 1/2 days but allows time for trade approvals posted at 2 am or so to get digested for 3 days ...

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:43 pm

Let's just go with 72 hours.

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:47 pm

I'm inclined to go with 5-7 days. A first objection must be raised within 5 days with sufficient additional objections within 7 days of the trade.