Trades

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:48 pm

So, Jake acquired Felix for Meyer and Baez today.

The second half of the deal is Jake sends COL 1, COL 2 for NYY 3, NYY 5.

The second trade logically should not pass on its own.

I have no problem with people agreeing to trades with picks in them, and then waiting for them to show up on OOPSS, but this opens a major box of problems. When is it OK to send the major part of a deal? What if I wanted to deal my 1 and 2 in April, and trade whatever to get Bautista from Shawn, with the agreement that he gets my 1, 2, 3 for his 5 at the All-Star Break?

I don't think we can allow this to happen again, and if it does, that the TRC should veto trades like that in the future. Levine and JB notified the TRC that the 1/2 and 3/5 will be part of the deal next week, but going forward, it's a problem. I don't really care about Jake getting an extra start out of King (shawn might), but, this is just going to be a major problem in coming years.

Astros · Post by **Astros** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:39 pm

Yeah in the future if you're dealing picks, the whole deal has to happen at once

Nationals · Post by **Nationals** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:40 pm

I saw that trade and definitely raised an eyebrow; the draft picks make sense and make the deal seem a helluva lot more even, but yeah, they should have been part of the same deal. Good on them for finding a loophole and Jake getting an extra start from Felix, but let's shut it down now (if only to keep the tracking of these deals much easier)

Astros · Post by **Astros** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:33 pm

Cause who's to say someone doesn't fuck someone over on one of these? What's to stop Jake from going, oh yeah I already have Felix so you're not getting those picks now. Close this loophole ASAP

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:56 pm

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:58 pm

I don't think we can allow this to happen again, and if it does, that the TRC should veto trades like that in the future. Levine and JB notified the TRC that the 1/2 and 3/5 will be part of the deal next week, but going forward, it's a problem. I don't really care about Jake getting an extra start out of King (shawn might), but, this is just going to be a major problem in coming years.

Honestly, the TRC completely screwed up here. This shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Jake & JB didn't find a loophole, the TRC guys didn't do their job. At the least they should have come to the exco before ruling on it.

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:26 am

Rangers wrote:
I don't think we can allow this to happen again, and if it does, that the TRC should veto trades like that in the future. Levine and JB notified the TRC that the 1/2 and 3/5 will be part of the deal next week, but going forward, it's a problem. I don't really care about Jake getting an extra start out of King (shawn might), but, this is just going to be a major problem in coming years.
Honestly, the TRC completely screwed up here. This shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Jake & JB didn't find a loophole, the TRC guys didn't do their job. At the least they should have come to the exco before ruling on it.

I agree ...

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:01 am

We have to nip this in the bud, the trading of draft picks is restricted intentionally, not so trade and follow deals can be done. I think we should make the rule more generic and say an entire trade has to be submitted for approval at the same time.