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Good pick by Bren at No. 1 I think. I liked the pick for Houston back in June, especially with the new spending rules, but do still think Correra could be the best pick in the draft as well.
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Surprised Giolito went ahead of Gausman. But I guess it's a good thing he's getting Tommy John out of the way already...
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Russell going as early as he did shocked me. I had him on my board as someone to look at if I traded down a few spots
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Russell went 4th in both drafts I've seen so far.
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Almora over Soler from the Cubs fan. How close are they according to scouts? Sickels gives them the same grade (B+). Almora's younger. Thoughts?
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Almora plays a mean CF.
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Really surprised to see Russell that high until I looked at my own board (at 25 I haven't cared too much about the order of the top 10), realized that I probably would have taken him there too.
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On Russell at #4. I kept going through my list again and again, thinking that there should be someone else there for me to pick, but every time I kept going back to Russell. Of the impact middle infield bats, Russell has the best chance of sticking at SS, IMO. BA even gave him a plus defense rating at SS and he looks to be on the fast track for a high school draftee. Impact bat, plus defense at SS......sign me up!


#11 pick: I was hoping Zimmer would drop one more slot, as I had him rated the highest on my board at that point. After Ben snagged him at #10 I had to re-evaluate my remaining choices.

I had Fried, Heaney and Gohara all rated fairly close, but with differring ceilings and floors. Gohara and Fried as the higher risk, high ceiling youngesters and Heaney as a safer bet to reach the bigs but with the lower ceiling.

In the end I decided to take the flyer on the guy with the crazy "reported" tools (since very few scouts or prospect hounds have even seen Gohara pitch yet). This may end up being my "white whale" that I chased and regret, but we'll just have to see.
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At first glance I was shocked at the Gohara pick--he was nowhere near my list of guys. But then I looked at his tools and at the other two picks you already had taken and it made sense. You have some pretty impressive players already so why not take a lottery ticket guy like Gohara? I probably wouldn't have done the same but it's a very interesting gamble.
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Mariners wrote:On Russell at #4. I kept going through my list again and again, thinking that there should be someone else there for me to pick, but every time I kept going back to Russell. Of the impact middle infield bats, Russell has the best chance of sticking at SS, IMO. BA even gave him a plus defense rating at SS and he looks to be on the fast track for a high school draftee. Impact bat, plus defense at SS......sign me up!


#11 pick: I was hoping Zimmer would drop one more slot, as I had him rated the highest on my board at that point. After Ben snagged him at #10 I had to re-evaluate my remaining choices.

I had Fried, Heaney and Gohara all rated fairly close, but with differring ceilings and floors. Gohara and Fried as the higher risk, high ceiling youngesters and Heaney as a safer bet to reach the bigs but with the lower ceiling.

In the end I decided to take the flyer on the guy with the crazy "reported" tools (since very few scouts or prospect hounds have even seen Gohara pitch yet). This may end up being my "white whale" that I chased and regret, but we'll just have to see.
As the guy who blew the #4 pick on Michael Ynoa I can tell you will have no regrets, it's all kinds of fun to have a guy like that.
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I admit the pick did surprise me a bit. Though if you figure Gohara is a MLB Mariner and almost certainly wouldn't have been there for BC's next pick(#64) now is as good a time as any to buy a hometown lottery ticket.
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Looks like someone read Fangraphs this morning and saw Hawkins.
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Angels wrote:Angels draft Courtney 12-Hawkins with Pick #12
I didn't think he'd make it to #16 ...
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Mets wrote:Looks like someone read Fangraphs this morning and saw Hawkins.
Actually I hadn't...but either way, I had a need for another OF and since Almora didn't fall, Dahl went slightly higher than I expected and I wasn't a big fan on Soler (even though he didn't make it to me) Hawkins was the next best pick. I could have went for more INF help, but I like his ceiling.
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Hawkins was in my queue. He certainly has big upside. I always worry with certain teams' handling of prospects and the White Sox are on that list. But you could say that about any team now and then. That said, he certainly has the tools to succeed and I certainly would have taken him.
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Tigers wrote:Hawkins was in my queue. He certainly has big upside. I always worry with certain teams' handling of prospects and the White Sox are on that list. But you could say that about any team now and then. That said, he certainly has the tools to succeed and I certainly would have taken him.
I would have if you didn't.
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Gallo is who I targeted when I traded for No. 16, and I really didn't expect him to fall to 16. Pleasantly surprised.
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Stratton went 10 picks higher than I hoped he would. Don't you know he took a line drive off his head? :)
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Athletics wrote:Stratton went 10 picks higher than I hoped he would. Don't you know he took a line drive off his head? :)
Yeah I knew that, but I figured as a pitcher he was hardheaded. I liked him at that spot because I was looking for a college righty and he was the best one available.
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Reds wrote:
Athletics wrote:Stratton went 10 picks higher than I hoped he would. Don't you know he took a line drive off his head? :)
Yeah I knew that, but I figured as a pitcher he was hardheaded. I liked him at that spot because I was looking for a college righty and he was the best one available.

Doesn't hurt that San Francisco is pretty good at developing pitchers, either.
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Mariners wrote:
Reds wrote:
Athletics wrote:Stratton went 10 picks higher than I hoped he would. Don't you know he took a line drive off his head? :)
Yeah I knew that, but I figured as a pitcher he was hardheaded. I liked him at that spot because I was looking for a college righty and he was the best one available.

Doesn't hurt that San Francisco is pretty good at developing pitchers, either.
That was a factor as well.
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I'm a bit surprised Fried lasted as long as he did.
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I thought about taking Fried but decided I'd rather have someone that'll move faster
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Cardinals wrote:I thought about taking Fried but decided I'd rather have someone that'll move faster
That's wht I passed on him the first time.
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Reds wrote:
Cardinals wrote:I thought about taking Fried but decided I'd rather have someone that'll move faster
That's wht I passed on him the first time.
And I guess that was my rationale too...so maybe I should be less surprised
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