John Maine

Tigers · Post by **Tigers** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:45 pm

Pitched yesterday in the SIM (August 12th) however was put on the MLB DL on August 3rd.

This would be a DL violation.

Mets · Post by **Mets** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:39 pm

There goes my playoff chances.

JT and I were going to netplay that game, but we neglected to tell JP. I missed it on my last MP.

Tigers · Post by **Tigers** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:43 pm

Rockies wrote:There goes my playoff chances.

While your "tongue-'n-cheek" humor is noted, I doubt the GM who you pitched him against and who actually is in a penant race, appreciates your joke much.

Mets · Post by **Mets** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:01 pm

Mariners wrote: While your "tongue-'n-cheek" humor is noted, I doubt the GM who you pitched him against and who actually is in a penant race, appreciates your joke much.

Couple of things come up here:
1. Are we sure we want DL violations to be able to affect penant races? For a team like me that's out of it, what incentive do I have to check the DL as much? Not alluding to the fact that I neglect my team (first violation in 3 years...and that's with the stupid weekly DL), but I can see potential for this to become a much bigger issue on say, September 27th.
2. Why would my humor need to be noted? What does "noted" even mean? Do we have stats for this kind of stuff, or is it mearly a pompous way of describing that acknowledged my light hearted comment? (in a Seinfeld tone)

Pirates · Post by **Pirates** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:50 pm

I think the Bigger Problem is that if it wasn't for Brennan patrolling that a lot of the DL violations go unnoticed. I know that Linebrink has been out for 3 or so weeks and I just DL'd him now. I realize im in dead last so nobody is probably looking over my team. But there has to be a better way to fix the injury situation.

Mariners · Post by **Mariners** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:11 pm

Brewers wrote:"But there has to be a better way to fix the injury situation."

There is a better way, the way it's done in the BCMBL, and John has been telling you guys about it forever. Some others in this league are also in BCMBL, do you not agree it moves so much smoother? Nobody ever plays who shouldn't, once in awhile a minor league injury sneaks thru.

But anyway, that's a discussion for the off-season, if at all.

Pirates · Post by **Pirates** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:15 pm

I mean it is easier, yes, but the problem is that I dont pay as close as attention as I do in this league because I feel like I don't need to check my team for injuries and update it. I think a good compromise would be for someone to put out the same list that gets put out in the BCMBL of who is injured each day and then it becomes the GM's responsibility to sit that player himself and not get auto DL'd

Mariners · Post by **Mariners** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:31 pm

Same problem exists with that, if someone is out of it and does not care enough to check into the emails, then they won't take the guy out. Remember, the BCMBL list comes out with boxscores in which we don't do, so even losing teams tend to see that email.

The BCMBL system is better because tardy GM's won't cause an injured guy to play. The worse they could do is not activate a guy, which is not as bad because SOMEBODY is playing as opposed to a player who should not be. Plus, if a GM is tardy at activating guys, that is alot easier to notice, by simply looking at how many active players the tardy GM has going.

Tigers · Post by **Tigers** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:50 pm

The BCMBL system is better because tardy GM's won't cause an injured guy to play.

Remind me, since I'm not in the BCMBL, but that system requires someone to volunteer to be the "DL" guy and produce a DL list every day. Which then means the SIM guy has to make sure he checks that list and deactivates the DL players every day.

That part of the system is obviously better as long as you get a DL volunteer and the SIM guy doesn't mind having to take the extra time to look at the list and deactivate players every day before he SIMs games.

That same thing would work with the current sytem if someone wants to volunteer to be the DL list guy and send a list of new DL'd players in every week and then the SIM guy would just have to compare that list with the database on Tuesday before he starts to SIM games to make sure all those players were DL'd in the database.

Regardless of the DL system, the issue is the same in both in that you need two GM's to spend additional time addressing the issue.