DL Rules

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed May 28, 2008 3:31 pm

Just to cover our bases, we should probably discuss this a little at least especially since John asked us to talk about it.

I don't think a Daily DL is a good idea for the reasons discussed in that injury thread. I think it would be a disaster and force lineups to be screwy, and also put more burden on me not to miss a DL to deactivate somebody. I guarantee I would miss one or two guys a month and personally I think it should be GM responsibility, not league responsibility to DL players.

I think our system has worked great this year. The penalties may be a bit harsh though. Also, I still think we should be able to activate players mid week so long as they have served their two weeks or one week mandatory DL time.

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Wed May 28, 2008 4:38 pm

I agree that the system is fine, and I don't think the penalties are too harsh because I think it's the harsh penalties that are keeping people on top of it. I'd be willing to consider doing DL's with the Thursday DB as well if there was overwhelming demand for it, but I really don't see a problem.

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Wed May 28, 2008 5:45 pm

I personally have no problem with going to a twice per week DL designation allowance. I believe the majority of our GMs are both viligant and caring enough that it can be carried off. Most will probably keep some sort of documentation.

The penalities are stiff but I would recommend keeping them that way for now.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:28 pm

I agree that we should stay away from league responsibility for injury entry.

I also don't have a problem with going to twice weekly DLs, but definitely must be strict to injuries starting with new databases (ie no inputting an injury on Tuesday and saying it starts then).

However, I think that either the entire league should go to twice weekly DLs or we should make GMs declare which they're doing and make them do it all year. I'm not a fan of making loopholes that will let GMs choose who they want to DL/activate players against.

Also, are we talking amnesty for someone like John who has admitted not following the rules? Is that a given?

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Wed May 28, 2008 8:18 pm

Dodgers wrote:I agree that we should stay away from league responsibility for injury entry.

I also don't have a problem with going to twice weekly DLs, but definitely must be strict to injuries starting with new databases (ie no inputting an injury on Tuesday and saying it starts then).

However, I think that either the entire league should go to twice weekly DLs or we should make GMs declare which they're doing and make them do it all year. I'm not a fan of making loopholes that will let GMs choose who they want to DL/activate players against.

Also, are we talking amnesty for someone like John who has admitted not following the rules? Is that a given?

Totally agree with 1st paragraph ...

Also 100 % on 2nd ...

Let's run an advisory poll ... options: twice a week, Thursday and Sunday d-bases, or no change, i.e, Sunday only d-base only.

100% on the amnesty ...

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:11 am

I think that the DL rules should stay the same as they are for this year. Any change should be subject to debate over the offseason. I do not think we should be doing DL twice a week. I do think that if a player has spent his two weeks that he can come off any day off the DL, so long as he has been on the IBC for his mandatory sentence as it is.

Also, we should reiterate the rules I think.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:51 am

Agree that we should reiterate the rules, I still have the new rules document Bren drew up, just haven't had a chance to proofread it.

As for twice weekly DL, I don't really care either way, but it makes sense not to change it until after the season if we are going to. I think I like the idea that you can activate players at any time during the week as long as they've served 2 weeks, though perhaps that's something that shouldn't change until after the season as well, because JA will bitch that other people will get to do it, but he couldn't with Jack Wilson.

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:51 am

Touche. So I think we're best not messing with the rules at all then for this season?

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:52 am

Definitely. Anyone else incredibly entertained by John vs. Bren? I think Bren found someone almost as ridiculously intransigent as he is, I especially enjoy the typos.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:53 pm

I think while not messing with the rules at all this season, perhaps we should still come up with a ruling on any changes we want to make now. The reason I suggest this is we seem to be falling into a pattern where we delay ruling, then either forget about it or forget all the arguments for it (case in point: current discussion on draft pick trading).

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:11 pm

Right, but I also don't think it's a decision that we should be making alone either. I think a healthy league debate (i.e., not just John and Bren) would be necessary before making any DL Rule changes

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:05 pm

Athletics wrote:Definitely. Anyone else incredibly entertained by John vs. Bren? I think Bren found someone almost as ridiculously intransigent as he is, I especially enjoy the typos.

Right here.

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:10 pm

I agree with what you guys have concluded. Don't change it in the middle of this season, let the league get involved. My only concern in changing it is really along the lines of what I think Bren is saying, that our league just isn't set up to be one where everyone micromanages their team every day, and even having to take care of injuries for your team twice a week might be a problem for some guys who we really enjoy having in the league. I think that we need to tread carefully on that part.