April 2007 Trades

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:25 pm

Posted here by OOPSS.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:33 pm

RedSox trade 
Clay 5-Buchholz, Fernando Cabrera, Zack Greinke, Chuck James, Garrett Olson, , , to Indians for 
Jake Peavy, Kevin Mench, , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:10 am

Astros trade 
Salomon Torres, , , , , , , to Brewers for 
Bengie Molina, , , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:10 am

Giants trade 
A.J. Burnett, Dontrelle Willis, Elijah Dukes, , , , , to Mariners for 
Jeremy Bonderman, Brad Penny, Nick Johnson, , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:06 pm

Mets trade 
Rich Hill, , , , , , , to Dodgers for 
Chris Capuano, Carlos Ruiz, , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:18 pm

Dodgers trade 
Matt 6-Antonelli, Jeremy Sowers, , , , , , to Cardinals for 
Adam Lind, Lyle Overbay, Derrick Turnbow, , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:09 pm

Angels trade 
Brandon McCarthy, Pat Neshek, , , , , , to Giants for 
Marcus 0-McBeth, John Danks, David DeJesus, , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:25 am

Astros trade 
Hiram Bocachica, , , , , , , to Braves for 
Sean Gallagher, Angel Salome, , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:25 am

Astros trade 
Brandon Wood, Tadahito Iguchi, , , , , , to WhiteSox for 
Evan 6-Longoria, Rick Bauer, , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:28 am

Angels trade 
Kory Casto, Kendry Morales, , , , , , to Astros for 
Aaron Thompson, Brandon Jones, , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:29 am

Astros trade 
Luke 6-Hochevar, Ryan Braun, Angel Salome, Kendry Morales, , , , to Nationals for 
Tim 6-Lincecum, Matt Murton, Juan Encarnacion, , , , ,

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:04 am

I don't even know how long it's been and I haven't heard a word on what happened with my trade. Shouldn't someone have told me something by now? This is ridiculous...

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:36 am

Royals wrote:I don't even know how long it's been and I haven't heard a word on what happened with my trade. Shouldn't someone have told me something by now? This is ridiculous...

I have not seen it approved ... nor have I heard word it was not approved.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:33 am

Mets wrote:
Royals wrote:I don't even know how long it's been and I haven't heard a word on what happened with my trade. Shouldn't someone have told me something by now? This is ridiculous...
I have not seen it approved ... nor have I heard word it was not approved.

The trade appears to have been vetoed, I will have to look into the function that sends Jim a PM on veto. Sorry.

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:42 am

Call me an asshole, but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take 10 days to veto something and not tell anyone about it.

Even just a goddamn email would suffice - and then I can put together a trade appeal.

This is totally unacceptable...and I am royally pissed off...

Athletics · Post by **Athletics** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:38 pm

Royals wrote: This is totally unacceptable...and I am royally pissed off...

Im sure no pun was intended, but still funny.

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:06 pm

Pun was totally intended...I'd say I'm almost blue in the face about my anger though...

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:25 pm

Royals wrote:Call me an asshole, but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take 10 days to veto something and not tell anyone about it.

Even just a goddamn email would suffice - and then I can put together a trade appeal.

This is totally unacceptable...and I am royally pissed off...

Z, normally teams who have trades that are vetoed are notified by Jim as soon as it happens. Jim only receives his cue from a PM sent automatically through the board. This didn't happen and I'm looking into why.

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:36 pm

Royals wrote:Call me an asshole, but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take 10 days to veto something and not tell anyone about it.

Even just a goddamn email would suffice - and then I can put together a trade appeal.

This is totally unacceptable...and I am royally pissed off...

I don't personally believe you are an asshole but if you want me to call you one ....

On April 5, Z and I had a chat, a small portion of which is copied below:

12:34 PM me: Gotta a minute?
royals: sure
12:36 PM me: Heilman is legit and a very nice target but it may not get approved due to ... edict about discounting players without real AA experience ...
No official vote yet ... just comments on e-mails

It went on 57 lines but there is no need to repeat it all. Since then another trade, currently being appealed and polled was not approved by the TRC for basically the same reason. As I indicated in a previous posting, I have not heard that the trade has been officially denied nor have I seen it approved. Perhaps some TRC members are waiting to see the results of the current appeal which might serve as guidance on how the league GMs feel about the "less then AA edict". On April 7 I was advised rather tersely by Bren that this edict or rule "was voted in by a 2/3 majority of the league".

When I get any notification that a trade has been vetoed I notify the affected parties on behalf of the TRC whether or not I personally agree with the veto or not. In this case there has not been notification ... I have voted and followed the league rules as they are currently implemented and interpreted.

Finally - this does not need to be this public. I would happily responded to a personal e-mail requesting the status of the review and would have even attempted to find out more from other TRC members about what is or isn't happening with this review. This is not the way I would prefer to carry this dialogue on ... but then I did not initiate this venue.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:12 am

Dodgers trade 
Daric Barton, Joseph Bisenius, , , , , , to Astros for 
Joe Saunders, , , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:12 am

Astros trade 
Matt Murton, Ryan Wagner, , , , , , to Giants for 
Mark Prior, , , , , , ,

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:13 am

Yankees trade 
Ricardo Romero, Austin Kearns, , , , , , to Giants for 
Nick Johnson, , , , , , ,

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:08 pm

Woah, woah, woah...

The entire dialogue of our conversation was about my thoughts on why it should go through - INCLUDING my repeated thanks for giving me a HEADS-UP.

That was a heads-up, nothing more, nothing less. If I have a problem with you one-off then I'll email you. If there is a flaw in the system then I'm going to alert the entire league. Since I was actually thankful to you for giving me a heads-up, I wouldn't characterize my attitude towards you as "problematic" - thus it would fall in the latter category.

As much as I participate in this league, you will notice my solid absence from any sort of position with any sort of power - that is because I don't want it, and I don't want to have to pay attention to it. This was a problem and I had no idea what the answer was - I let stuff go on for a week without saying anything. Then I said something - well within my right.

Shawn apologized for the glitch, and I let it be at that. At no point did I blame anyone for this - and I had every right to be upset and point out the problem to the league. You can say whatever you want, but it's absurd if more then a week goes by on a deal without hearing a resolution - if I'm alone in that thought I'd be shocked.

If I'm gonna be knit-pickey (which I apparently will be), then I still have had no official word on the deal. Just a lot of assumptive statements to work off of.

Do all you people want to know my honest thoughts here? No? Well you're gonna get them. I traded two pretty decent starting pitching prospects for a professional middle reliever. He is not the Mets setup guy - he is a situational right-hander. If he was ever going to be a starter, it was going to be this year - and they chose to not have him make a go at the rotation. Is Heilman a good pitcher? Absolutely. Would this trade have helped me this year? Absolutely. But I'm worried about the intensity of the league's trade restrictions if we can't move middle relievers and/or bench players for minor league prospects. That's my simple stance on it. Once I receive official word from the league that my deal has been rejected, I will contemplate an appeal - but at this point am thinking that it's just not worth the bullshit.

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:58 pm

Royals wrote:Woah, woah, woah...

The entire dialogue of our conversation was about my thoughts on why it should go through - INCLUDING my repeated thanks for giving me a HEADS-UP.

That was a heads-up, nothing more, nothing less. If I have a problem with you one-off then I'll email you. If there is a flaw in the system then I'm going to alert the entire league. Since I was actually thankful to you for giving me a heads-up, I wouldn't characterize my attitude towards you as "problematic" - thus it would fall in the latter category.

As much as I participate in this league, you will notice my solid absence from any sort of position with any sort of power - that is because I don't want it, and I don't want to have to pay attention to it. This was a problem and I had no idea what the answer was - I let stuff go on for a week without saying anything. Then I said something - well within my right.

Shawn apologized for the glitch, and I let it be at that. At no point did I blame anyone for this - and I had every right to be upset and point out the problem to the league. You can say whatever you want, but it's absurd if more then a week goes by on a deal without hearing a resolution - if I'm alone in that thought I'd be shocked.

If I'm gonna be knit-pickey (which I apparently will be), then I still have had no official word on the deal. Just a lot of assumptive statements to work off of.

Do all you people want to know my honest thoughts here? No? Well you're gonna get them. I traded two pretty decent starting pitching prospects for a professional middle reliever. He is not the Mets setup guy - he is a situational right-hander. If he was ever going to be a starter, it was going to be this year - and they chose to not have him make a go at the rotation. Is Heilman a good pitcher? Absolutely. Would this trade have helped me this year? Absolutely. But I'm worried about the intensity of the league's trade restrictions if we can't move middle relievers and/or bench players for minor league prospects. That's my simple stance on it. Once I receive official word from the league that my deal has been rejected, I will contemplate an appeal - but at this point am thinking that it's just not worth the bullshit.

At this point in time, I still have no offical (or unoffical) notice ... otherwise, I would have notified Z.

Tigers · Post by **Tigers** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:11 pm

Mets wrote:At this point in time, I still have no offical (or unoffical) notice ... otherwise, I would have notified Z.

I'm sure this doesn't add anything of value to the conversation and this obviously isn't directed at you, Jim .......but it sure sounds like there is an awful lot of official ass dragging going on by the trade committee members who haven't voted on this deal.

IBC

April 2007 Trades

April 2007 Trades

Indians/RedSox Trade Approved

Brewers/Astros Trade Approved

Mariners/Giants Trade Approved

Dodgers/Mets Trade Approved

Cardinals/Dodgers Trade Approved

Giants/Angels Trade Approved

Braves/Astros Trade Approved

WhiteSox/Astros Trade Approved

Astros/Angels Trade Approved

Nationals/Astros Trade Approved

Astros/Dodgers Trade Approved

Giants/Astros Trade Approved

Giants/Yankees Trade Approved