IBC

Rockies wrote:Not necessarily the best players on my team, but the ones I consider to be the franchise identity this year and beyond.

1. John Maine
2. Oliver Perez
3. Freddy Sanchez
4. Kenji Johjima
5. Jeremy Accardo
6. Jeremy Hellickson*
7. Paul Konerko
8. Shuan Marcum
9. Jack Wilson
10. Shawn Hill

Not allstars, but solid baseball players that will win games.

Only 6 still remain.
With the possibility of two more gone by the deadline.

Updating the Tigers:

1. Chase Utley
2. Jose Reyes
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. Yovani Gallardo
5. Matt Wieters
6. James Shields
7. Prince Fielder
8. Matt Holliday
9. Roy Oswalt
10. Alex Gordon

RedSox wrote:1. Josh Beckett
2. Brandon Webb
3. Dustin Pedroia
4. Travis Buck
5. Andy Laroche
6. Kevin Youkilis
7. Jed Lowrie
8. Pat Neshek
9. Mark Buehrle
10.Michael Bowden

A few changes since then...
1. Dustin Pedroia
2. Brandon Webb
3. Josh Beckett
4. Jeremy Guthrie
5. Kevin Youkilis
6. Mark Buehrle (most underrated pitcher in baseball)
7. Victor Martinez
8. Jacoby Ellsbury
9. Denard Span
10.Michael Bowden

6. Mark Buehrle (most underrated pitcher in baseball)

I recently wrote an argument calling him the most overrated pitcher in baseball. If I hear one more announcer call him an ace I'm going to shoot someone.

Mets wrote:Jimmy Rollins, SS
Clayton Kershaw, SP
Delmon Young, RF
Joey Votto, 1B/LF
Carlos Gomez, CF
Ubaldo Jiminez, SP
Franklin Morales, SP
Jarrod Parker, SP
Matt Capps, CL
Jose Martinez, OF

Got a ways to go ...

Clayton Kershaw, SP
Tommy Hanson, SP
Joey Votto, 1B
Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
Ricky Nolasco, SP
Ubaldo Jimenez, SP
Max Ramirez, C
Ben Revere, CF
Gordon Beckham, SS
Justin Smoak, 1B

A little turnover - for the better ...

I think a lot of announcers use the term 'Ace' differenly than we think of it. I (and I think most other members here based on past arguments) think of an ace as one of the top few pitchers in baseball. I think most announcers use 'Ace' as a term for the #1 SP on the staff, which Buehrle has generally been for the White Sox.
Buehrle is Andy Pettite without the hype. As JP and I discussed a few weeks ago, Pettitte got too much credit, buehrle doesn't get enough. Find a medium between the two and you'd be just about right.
He's 29, has thrown 200+IP each of the last 8 seasons (every year of his career except when he broke in at 21) and is 17th among active SP in ERA+.
He's not an ace, and never will be one, but he's damn good.

David Price SP
Trevor Cahill SP
Colby Rasmus OF
Pedro Alvarez 3B
Kyle Drabek SP
Chris Carter DH
Nick Weglarz OF
Beau Mills 1B
Tim Beckham SS
Pablo Sandoval C

In no particular order:

1) John Danks
2) Carlos Zambrano
3) Carlos Marmol
4) Andre Ethier
5) Jayson Werth
6) Alexie Ramirez
7) Mike Napoli
Jorge Cantu
9) Josh Willingham
10) Jose Lopez

1]Carlos Carrasco
2]Matt LaPorta
3]Nick Adenhart
4]Andrew McCutchen
5]Homer Bailey
6]Jeff Clement
7]Logan Morrison
8]Hank Conger
9]Sean Rodriguez
10]Adam Lind

Pirates wrote:Well, five months later:

Lincecum
McCann
Braun
Oswalt
Bailey
Fowler
Moustakas
Andrus
Elbert
Revere

Lincecum
Sabathia
Haren
Lackey
Ramirez
Fowler
Abreu
Wallace
Guillen
Main

Astros wrote:1. Clay Buchholz
2. Ryan Braun
3. Conor Jackson
4. Travis Snider
5. Jon Broxton
6. Luke Hochevar
7. Mike Moustakas
8. Desmond jennings
9. Jordan Schafer
10. Fautino de los Santos

This has changed a bit. In no particular order...
1. Chad Billingsley
2. Alex Rios
3. Conor Jackson
4. Kevin Kouzmanoff
5. Jordan Schafer
6. Travis Snider
7. Dioner Navarro
8. Clay Buchholz
9. Luke Hochevar
10. James McDonald

Chris Young
Fausto Carmona
Victor Martinez
Rich Hill
Chipper Jones
Brian Wilson
Brad Hawpe
Michael Young
Todd Helton
Chone Figgins

Not Ranked - I only have one guy left:
Bradley Milton RF
Drew J.D. RF
Dunn Adam LF
Jones Chipper 3B
Jurrjens Jair SP
Litsch Jesse SP
Marson Lou C
Masterson Justin SP
Saunders Joe SP
Volquez Edinson SP

2010 Pirates Core

1 Tim Lincecum
2 Zack Greinke
3 Roy Halladay
4 Evan Longoria
5 Dan Haren
6 Matt Holliday
7 Jon Broxton
8 Franklin Gutierrez
9 Nick Johnson
10 Kosuke Fukudome or Kelly Johnson, I'm a believer in KJ still.

Lots of changes for the better over the past two years in the Burgh.

Cardinals wrote:Oswalt
Lackey
Markakis
Garland
Yadi Molina
Burrell
Headley
Antonelli
Max Ramirez
Jared Burton

Wainwright
Jurrjens
Grady
Billy Butler
Frank Francisco
Yadi
Hawpe
Seth Smith
Chris Perez
Chase Headley (he hit .300 away from Petco, my boy just needs a trade)

Tigers wrote:Updating the Tigers:

1. Chase Utley
2. Jose Reyes
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. Yovani Gallardo
5. Matt Wieters
6. James Shields
7. Prince Fielder
8. Matt Holliday
9. Roy Oswalt
10. Alex Gordon

1. Hanley Ramirez
2. Miguel Cabrera
3. Chase Utley
4. Jose Reyes
5. Prince Fielder
6. Matt Wieters
7. Nick Markakis
8. Joe Nathan
9. Roy Oswalt
10. James Shields

Oh this looks like fun.

1. Buster Posey
2. Jason Bay
3. JD Drew
4. Gil Meche
5. Brett Myers
6. Derek Holland
7. Huston Street
8. Mike Cameron
9. Ryan Doumit
10. Chris Davis
HM: The Great White Whale Michael Ynoa
Dearly Departed for now: Mark DiFelice

This list will probably look pretty different in a month or two.

Here we go:

1. Brett Anderson
2. Ryan Braun
3. Desmond Jennings
4. Jason Kubel
5. Trevor Reckling
6. Chipper Jones
7. Jason Bartlett
8. James Loney
9. Andy LaRoche
10. Jon Niese

HM: Ike Davis, Daric Barton, Jason Frasor

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Felix Hernandez
3. Albert Pujols
4. Joe Mauer
5. Scott Kazmir
6. Grady Sizemore
7. Joba Chamberlain
8. Jon Papelbon
9. Robinson Cano
10. TBD by the IBC Fan voting

1. Albert Pujols
2. Joe Mauer
3. Felix Hernandez
4. Alex Rodriguez
5. C.C. Sabathia
6. Jon Lester
7. Ryan Howard
8. Derek Jeter
9. Neftali Feliz
10. Elvis Andrus

HM: Mariano Rivera, Jon Papelbon, Manny Ramirez, Javier Vazquez, Jesus Montero, Robinson Cano

Yankees wrote:

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Felix Hernandez
3. Albert Pujols
4. Joe Mauer
5. Scott Kazmir
6. Grady Sizemore
7. Joba Chamberlain
8. Jon Papelbon
9. Robinson Cano
10. TBD by the IBC Fan voting

1. Albert Pujols
2. Joe Mauer
3. Felix Hernandez
4. Alex Rodriguez
5. C.C. Sabathia
6. Jon Lester
7. Ryan Howard
8. Derek Jeter
9. Neftali Feliz
10. Elvis Andrus

HM: Mariano Rivera, Jon Papelbon, Manny Ramirez, Javier Vazquez, Jesus Montero, Robinson Cano

Jackass

Cubs wrote:In no particular order:

1) John Danks
2) Carlos Zambrano
3) Carlos Marmol
4) Andre Ethier
5) Jayson Werth
6) Alexie Ramirez
7) Mike Napoli
8 Jorge Cantu
9) Josh Willingham
10) Jose Lopez

1 - Clayton Kershaw
2 - Kendry Morales
3 - Adam Lind
4 - Wandy Rodriguez
5 - Andrew McCutchen
6 - Dan Uggla
7 - Carlos Marmol
8 - Josh Willingham
9 - Randy Wells
10 - Michael Young

1. Kevin Slowey
2. Tyler Matzek
3. Jeremy Jeffress (Still my boy)
4. Lastings Milledge
5. Ryan Perry
6. Austin Romine
7. Cameron Maybin
8. Miguel Sano
9. Alex Gordon
10. Justin Morneau

1. Stephen Strasburg
2. Johnny Cueto
3. Miguel Montero
4. Aaron Hicks
5. Dee Gordon
6. Michael Taylor
7. Jared Mitchell
8. Chris Coghlan
9. Scott Baker
10. Aaron Harang

Dustin Ackley
Pedro Alvarez
Josh Bell
Jay Bruce
Trevor Cahill
Chris Carter
Kyle Drabek
Andrew Miller
David Price
Colby Rasmus
Billy Wagner

RedSox wrote:Dustin Ackley
Pedro Alvarez
Josh Bell
Jay Bruce
Trevor Cahill
Chris Carter
Kyle Drabek
Andrew Miller
David Price
Colby Rasmus
Billy Wagner

This still weird me the fuck out...

Alphabetical order:

Beltran, Carlos
Cain, Matt
Cruz, Nelson
Dempster, Ryan
Feldman, Scott
Napoli, Mike
Prado, Martin
Swisher, Nick
Theriot, Ryan
Young, Chris