IBC

Beloved leader assassinated in one of the biggest global powderkeg regions...

RedSox wrote:Beloved leader assassinated in one of the biggest global powderkeg regions...

I'm sorry Bren, but Bhutto was not "beloved"--she was a key figure for those in opposition to Musharref but the hardcore Islamicists of Pakistan, who make up a majority of the population, had no love for her whatsoever.

She was certainly beloved by the democratically inclined of her nation.
Beloved does not necessarily mean popular (though she was popular enough to have been elected twice before going into exile)

RedSox wrote:She was certainly beloved by the democratically inclined of her nation.
Beloved does not necessarily mean popular (though she was popular enough to have been elected twice before going into exile)

By that definition you're beloved.

Though no chronicler of the IBC would use that term to describe you.

Twins wrote:I'm sorry Bren, but Bhutto was not "beloved"--she was a key figure for those in opposition to Musharref but the hardcore Islamicists of Pakistan, who make up a majority of the population, had no love for her whatsoever.

Agreed -- We had a long chat with Central and South Asia expert Josh Foust of the website Registan about the assassination of Benazir Bhutto this morning. "She's beloved by her clan and by the masses her people own but otherwise, a lot of people do not like her because of how she and her father stole billions of dollars from the country, bankrupted the entire country, and never really did anything save bow down before Bill Clinton," he said. So she was sort of like Marion Barry? "Yeah! only the bitch who set her up WAS ON THE INSIDE OF HER SOUL." After the jump Foust explains why people liked Bhutto, which is to say, because next to her fellow exiled leader Nawaz Sharif, military leader Pervez Musharraf and their Indian rivals, she looked pretty damn good.

http://jezebel.com/338092/benazir-bhutt ... y-type-way

And another thing: Bhutto is in large part responsible for the rise of the Talibanóthey came to power on her watch, and were tacitly supported as both proxy warriors in Kashmir and a ìstabilizing presenceî in Afghanistan. I hate to make a ìchickens come home to roostî argument, but it sure seems like it here.

http://registan.net/

The US certainly shares blame in the creation of the Taliban. The CIA played a significant role in their creation and organization in order to use them as opposition to the USSR.
All politicians are sleazeballs but she was certainly better than the other options.

RedSox wrote:The US certainly shares blame in the creation of the Taliban. The CIA played a significant role in their creation and organization in order to use them as opposition to the USSR.

Yep ...

RedSox wrote:All politicians are sleazeballs ...

I don't know 'em all so I can't honestly say that all politicans are sleazeballs ... but I know I know a lot of them and while many are, I honestly I believe I know a few who aren't.

Of the ones I've met, I'd say it's safe to say the are all sleazeballs, it's just a matter of degrees. some are less sleazy, some are more sleazy. I think it's endemic to the profession.