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ZiPS Bidding

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:52 pm
by Cardinals
I think the system worked nicely. Should we continue it for this offseason?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:32 pm
by Guardians
I think so. If I recall, the only crankiness was from Nils and Bren, who were mad that they didn't get a vote.

I would just suggest a more organized system in the actual message board. As is, we were just filing teams whose zips were filed with a link and in the same board, a player. Maybe we should create subfolders -- one for teams, one for players. Otherwise, I think it accomplished what it set out to accomplish.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:08 pm
by Rangers
Yeah I liked it.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:06 pm
by Dodgers
Yup, thoughts on whether we should tighten the budgets to cause more of a spread of players across the league?

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:33 pm
by Guardians
I would be fine tweaking the dollar amounts. Some people spent nothing. Others (ahem, Shawn, Brett) dumped all their budget on one guy. Only 14 guys were actually bid on. I could see reducing to $20 or even $15.

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:44 am
by Astros
I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do on this. Shit I'm sounding like Obama in the Senate just voting present

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:58 am
by Cardinals
If only 14 guys were bid on, I'm ok with going down to a $20 budget.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:37 pm
by Cardinals
Same budget this year, or do we want to modify it?

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:45 pm
by Padres
Pirates wrote:Same budget this year, or do we want to modify it?
I thought the system worked last season so I see no need to modify it.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:22 pm
by Guardians
I say $20. Last year, people didn't spend a ton. Maybe this makes decisions a little tougher and opens up spending for more teams.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:44 pm
by Dodgers
I agree we should drop it with only 14 players bid on last year.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:56 pm
by Padres
Tigers wrote:I say $20. Last year, people didn't spend a ton. Maybe this makes decisions a little tougher and opens up spending for more teams.
Okay ... I'll be interested to see if it makes any difference.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:39 pm
by Rangers
I don't think it really makes any difference how many schrute bucks everyone has, so I'm fine with trying out a smaller number of units of schrute bucks.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:19 pm
by Cardinals
Sure, let's try $20. I'll announce it.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:11 pm
by Cardinals
Clarity: Do you lose your waiver position with a winning bid?

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:32 pm
by Dodgers
We did not do this last year from what I recall. Since we are using waiver order to determine tiebreakers, you probably should lose your waiver position when making the winning bid though.

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:13 am
by Guardians
We only used waiver position to break a bid tie. We didn't reset waivers based on a tie. I think that would discourage bidding.

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:27 pm
by Rangers
Tigers wrote:We only used waiver position to break a bid tie. We didn't reset waivers based on a tie. I think that would discourage bidding.
I do too. It may be fairer to use up your waiver priority, but in light of our effort to encourage lesser teams to compete, I think this is a good avenue to encourage them to stock up on good simmers as much as they can.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:54 pm
by Dodgers
Fine by me.

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:04 pm
by Guardians
"To add: You will only lose your waiver claim in event of a tie. If you win a player outright, it will not affect your waiver standing"

I could see someone reading "will not affect your waiver standing" as meaning there is a way to affect your waiver standing. Am I the only one who reads it that way? Waiver priority would break a tie, but it won't move you down the waiver list. Is that what you're trying to convey here?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:09 pm
by Rangers
Yes, what JP said reads to me as "you will lose your waiver position if you win the tiebreaker on a zips bid."

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:10 pm
by Dodgers
I read it the same way, but JP’s clarification works.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:28 pm
by Rangers
Dodgers wrote:I read it the same way, but JP’s clarification works.
Sorry I'm confused. Are you saying we're changing the rule from last year?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:42 pm
by Guardians
No. The only thing we're changing is $30 to $20. Waiver spot only breaks a tie. You don't move down the waiver list at all.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:49 pm
by Dodgers
Rangers wrote:
Dodgers wrote:I read it the same way, but JP’s clarification works.
Sorry I'm confused. Are you saying we're changing the rule from last year?
No, I was saying JP’s latest post in the public thread is accurate.