SuperBowl Poll
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:56 pm
Yeah, yeah, everyone hates New England. But who do you think will actually win?
Mack's injury really came into play as the game went on. Tip your cap to him gutting it out with a broken fibula, but the Pats really started to get to Ryan in the second half.Mariners wrote:It was one of the greatest comebacks ever. Gotta give the Pats props for that.
Going conservative and into prevent defense will do that to you every time. Pat's countered Jarrett killing Brady the first 2.5 quarters and by finally double teaming him and the Falcons didn't counter to bring pressure from a different angle. Cost them the game. Brady finally got comfortable in the pocket and tore them up.
That was crazy.
I didn't really follow the NFL this year... but watching Matt Ryan, it was hard to figure out how he was the MVP. Dude looked totally lost.Angels wrote:More like Atlanta choking it away...did the Pats execute and do what they needed to, sure, but after that last Julio catch, the Falcons managed to move themselves out of FG range. They kick that, make it and game is over.
Not really. He had a 144 QB rating, which is pretty top notch. He was pretty efficient, though did fumble on the missed block by Freeman. But they definitely didn't adjust well to NE's defense in the second half. They also didn't use Freeman nearly enough in the second half considering his strong first half.Orioles wrote:I didn't really follow the NFL this year... but watching Matt Ryan, it was hard to figure out how he was the MVP. Dude looked totally lost.Angels wrote:More like Atlanta choking it away...did the Pats execute and do what they needed to, sure, but after that last Julio catch, the Falcons managed to move themselves out of FG range. They kick that, make it and game is over.
Last 15 minutes of the game, he was 4 of 8, sacked a couple times, lost fumble, and two missed targets. He was bad when they needed him most.Tigers wrote:Not really. He had a 144 QB rating, which is pretty top notch. He was pretty efficient, though did fumble on the missed block by Freeman. But they definitely didn't adjust well to NE's defense in the second half. They also didn't use Freeman nearly enough in the second half considering his strong first half.Orioles wrote:I didn't really follow the NFL this year... but watching Matt Ryan, it was hard to figure out how he was the MVP. Dude looked totally lost.Angels wrote:More like Atlanta choking it away...did the Pats execute and do what they needed to, sure, but after that last Julio catch, the Falcons managed to move themselves out of FG range. They kick that, make it and game is over.
Agree he had a bad last quarter, but can't dismiss his regular season and paint the entire game has him looking lost. Though, I think Shanahan didn't do him any favors in scheming the Pats' D. Patriots, however, picked apart ATL's D very well.Pirates wrote:Last 15 minutes of the game, he was 4 of 8, sacked a couple times, lost fumble, and two missed targets. He was bad when they needed him most.Tigers wrote:Not really. He had a 144 QB rating, which is pretty top notch. He was pretty efficient, though did fumble on the missed block by Freeman. But they definitely didn't adjust well to NE's defense in the second half. They also didn't use Freeman nearly enough in the second half considering his strong first half.Orioles wrote: I didn't really follow the NFL this year... but watching Matt Ryan, it was hard to figure out how he was the MVP. Dude looked totally lost.
This.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
Bet you Matt Ryan would love to have Brady's terrible three quarters, Super Bowl ring and MVP award.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
You'd think Quinn who was on that SB49 staff would've known better.Rockies wrote:This.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.
Imagine the legacy discussions if Carroll and Quinn don't utterly fuck up the end of those 2 games. Then you're looking at the Pats on an 0 for 4 Super Bowl skid and no post-Spygate titles. Seriously, 90% of Madden players knew what to do in both those situations, but the guys making millions didn't.Rockies wrote:This.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.
Every armchair fan always thinks they know what's best. Especially the losers. It's easy to second guess and claim what's obvious when your butt isn't actually the one on the line. Maybe Quinn/Shanahan did choke. But they were the ones wit the headsets on the sidelines rather with millions watching and their careers and reputations on the line, not some fat slob sitting on a couch in their mom's basement with a joystick in their hand.Cardinals wrote:Imagine the legacy discussions if Carroll and Quinn don't utterly fuck up the end of those 2 games. Then you're looking at the Pats on an 0 for 4 Super Bowl skid and no post-Spygate titles. Seriously, 90% of Madden players knew what to do in both those situations, but the guys making millions didn't.Rockies wrote:This.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.
There's a reason Ryan was sacked 37 times in the regular season, even with a pretty good O-line.Orioles wrote:Looked like he had no idea how to get out of the pocket, even when he saw the rush coming.
Yep, and if I had wheels, I'd be a wagon.Cardinals wrote:Imagine the legacy discussions if Carroll and Quinn don't utterly fuck up the end of those 2 games. Then you're looking at the Pats on an 0 for 4 Super Bowl skid and no post-Spygate titles. Seriously, 90% of Madden players knew what to do in both those situations, but the guys making millions didn't.Rockies wrote:This.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.
And a few balls bounce the other way and they're 7 for 7 and they're starting to worry about running out of fingers.Cardinals wrote:Imagine the legacy discussions if Carroll and Quinn don't utterly fuck up the end of those 2 games. Then you're looking at the Pats on an 0 for 4 Super Bowl skid and no post-Spygate titles. Seriously, 90% of Madden players knew what to do in both those situations, but the guys making millions didn't.Rockies wrote:This.Cardinals wrote:Pats didn't pick apart the Atlanta D as much as they wore down from being on the field for 40 minutes. Brady had a terrible game for 3 quarters, that'll get lost in all this. The turning point in the game to me was Tevin Coleman's injury. Was 3rd and 1, Freeman came in, missed the blitz pickup and then the sack/fumble. At that point Atlanta needed 2 or 3 first downs to ice everything. Granted they shouldn't have been in shotgun on 3rd and 1 and just ran the ball. Same with after the Julio Jones catch. Run it 3 times, even if you don't gain a yard, you're kicking a field goal, going up 11 with 3 minutes left. The Pats have their last 2 titles thanks to coaches that tried to outsmart everyone and didn't run in the most obvious running situations. But football coaches aren't smart, if they weren't in the NFL they'd be high school gym teachers
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.
Shush, that talk is too sensible for round here. Next you'll be suggesting that if New England hadn't given the game away in the first half that Atlanta never would have been in it in the first place...Brewers wrote:And a few balls bounce the other way and they're 7 for 7 and they're starting to worry about running out of fingers.Cardinals wrote:Imagine the legacy discussions if Carroll and Quinn don't utterly fuck up the end of those 2 games. Then you're looking at the Pats on an 0 for 4 Super Bowl skid and no post-Spygate titles. Seriously, 90% of Madden players knew what to do in both those situations, but the guys making millions didn't.Rockies wrote: This.
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.
Brady also left the field with under what, 4 minutes to play? in each of those losses with the lead.Brewers wrote:And a few balls bounce the other way and they're 7 for 7 and they're starting to worry about running out of fingers.Cardinals wrote:Imagine the legacy discussions if Carroll and Quinn don't utterly fuck up the end of those 2 games. Then you're looking at the Pats on an 0 for 4 Super Bowl skid and no post-Spygate titles. Seriously, 90% of Madden players knew what to do in both those situations, but the guys making millions didn't.Rockies wrote: This.
The sack/fumble was killer - I don't know why you're throwing in that situation either - that far back in your zone with only 1 to 2 yards to go. As we know, it resulted in a quick TD for NE. But if they just run the ball 3 times after that Julio catch and kick a FG. Its game over.
Just dumb. On par with Pete not handing the ball to Beast Mode in Super Bowl 49.