SD Tanking?

Nationals · Post by **Nationals** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:11 pm

Moving this thread over here...

Yeah, it looks like a tank job. Although, it also could be him getting busy with having a kid and stuff. Is he just too busy for the league? His last transaction was in the draft...

Astros · Post by **Astros** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:04 am

Looks like that Co-GM worked out splendidly

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:31 am

He sent four rosters this year, and talks to me every now and then about his team.

If we're going to get on Bren's case, we need to be on JB's case, and Nate's case. Nate played a chunk of the season without a catcher for no reason whatsoever but to prove a point about extra DL spots. Had he played a real catcher, he may have had a chance to contend. JB at times had less than 10 pitchers active (Tullar noticed, and I talked to JB about it). JB also didn't even bother getting DMB this season.

Brandon hasn't sent an MP since July; Bren late June.

GMs when they're out of it tend 1. not to pay attention and 2. don't mind not activating players, or forget to. In Bren's case, given he just had a baby, I think he gets a mulligan, but I'm all for having some sort of rule in place that is anti-tanking going forward. How we write that exactly, I don't know, but I do agree that it does get a bit ridiculous and also can ruin the competitiveness of a pennant race thanks to the imbalanced schedules.

Nationals · Post by **Nationals** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:45 am

Alright; I didn't know he had submitted rosters and such. And yeah, with a baby, I think that deprioritizing the league for a couple months is understandable.

Regarding tanking, perhaps it could be written as "if you don't provide a decent rationale for not playing eligible players who are clearly helpful, the ExCo reserves the right to activate them for you" and then enforce it along the lines of what we do for enforcing the DL rules (i.e. let other GMs call it out). I don't know how much extra work it would put on us, but it at least gives some basis for stepping in and stopping a perceived tank job

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:02 pm

I think the more pressing question here is whether we're ok with more little Brens running around.

Padres · Post by **Padres** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:18 pm

Rangers wrote:I think the more pressing question here is whether we're ok with more little Brens running around.

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:59 pm

Twins wrote:Alright; I didn't know he had submitted rosters and such. And yeah, with a baby, I think that deprioritizing the league for a couple months is understandable.

Regarding tanking, perhaps it could be written as "if you don't provide a decent rationale for not playing eligible players who are clearly helpful, the ExCo reserves the right to activate them for you" and then enforce it along the lines of what we do for enforcing the DL rules (i.e. let other GMs call it out). I don't know how much extra work it would put on us, but it at least gives some basis for stepping in and stopping a perceived tank job

I like this idea

Rangers · Post by **Rangers** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:22 pm

I think this is reasonable too, though - and this may go without saying but I just want to be sure it's said - I think that the standard should be fairly extreme like the instances you guys mentioned here so that we don't accidentally create a culture of everyone thinking that they have the right to manage others' lineups.

Cardinals · Post by **Cardinals** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:47 pm

Yeah, agreed.

Nationals · Post by **Nationals** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:28 am

Most certainly. It's more a last resort thing where it's pretty clear that Player X isn't being played for no good reason.