IBC

OOPSS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:51 pm Guardians traded Trevor Rogers, Termarr 22-Johnson, 2023 Draft Pick 28, Troy 22-Taylor to Giants for Jesus Luzardo, Gavin 20-Stone

Phillies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:28 pm After a year of inactivity until forced to make a draft pick, is it fair to question the motivation here? Is it wrong that my initial reaction was seeing this as a "sure Pat, you can have my ace for free, I don't care anymore" kind of trade?

Astros wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:42 pm

Phillies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:28 pm After a year of inactivity until forced to make a draft pick, is it fair to question the motivation here? Is it wrong that my initial reaction was seeing this as a "sure Pat, you can have my ace for free, I don't care anymore" kind of trade?

I offered him Amador for Jobe straight up and he ghosts me and does this instead. How. Why

Yankees wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:02 pm First, not loving the 'First Take' takes going on here. What's your massive objection to this trade? I see a 1st round pick in a loaded class, a fun relief prospect, one of the consensus best prospects in baseball, and one of the more exciting young arms in the game as of 2 years ago...who's healthy going into camp. He clicks back in, the entire complexion of this trade is on its head.

Second, I thought Jim quite wonderfully spelled out the other week that you don't need to 'win' a trade if you think it helps your team or solves a problem. Jake has kicked my ass enough times to know that he's a very good GM...even if he didn't have a banner on this page. If he's doing a trade, I trust he's got an agenda for it.

Third, step up your shit if you want better players. People like trading with Pat because he's proactive and it's an enjoyable conversation/process with him...most of the time. If you're dead set on coming out ahead in every trade, you will probably make less trades. And if you're cool with that...everyone else will be, too. And if you think you know what your team needs and are proactive about it...those people should be treated with a similar respect for going and doing it.

Finally, I've talked shit about people publicly and privately, and it's WAY more satisfying doing it behind people's backs...just like I know people do it to me. That's why God invented Gchat & PM's. Stunting activity because you feel the need to be Statler & Waldorf isn't helping anyone.

Yankees wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:02 pm First, not loving the 'First Take' takes going on here. What's your massive objection to this trade? I see a 1st round pick in a loaded class, a fun relief prospect, one of the consensus best prospects in baseball, and one of the more exciting young arms in the game as of 2 years ago...who's healthy going into camp. He clicks back in, the entire complexion of this trade is on its head.

Second, I thought Jim quite wonderfully spelled out the other week that you don't need to 'win' a trade if you think it helps your team or solves a problem. Jake has kicked my ass enough times to know that he's a very good GM...even if he didn't have a banner on this page. If he's doing a trade, I trust he's got an agenda for it.

Third, step up your shit if you want better players. People like trading with Pat because he's proactive and it's an enjoyable conversation/process with him...most of the time. If you're dead set on coming out ahead in every trade, you will probably make less trades. And if you're cool with that...everyone else will be, too. And if you think you know what your team needs and are proactive about it...those people should be treated with a similar respect for going and doing it.

Finally, I've talked shit about people publicly and privately, and it's WAY more satisfying doing it behind people's backs...just like I know people do it to me. That's why God invented Gchat & PM's. Stunting activity because you feel the need to be Statler & Waldorf isn't helping anyone.