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DL Questions
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:49 pm
by Cardinals
basically I've been besieged with questions regarding the DL. The rules on the site says that if a player is on the DL as of Saturday midnight, they cannot play at all in the following week.
Is that necessary to have? I think as long as a player serves his two weeks on the DL then he should be able to be activated at any time during the week, especially since lineups can be sent in at any time.
Am I alone or does anybody else agree with me on this?
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:43 pm
by Giants
Ever here the phrase KISS, as in keep it simple stupid? The Saturday rule is there because it makes it a kajillion times easier to keep track of. If someone wants to take on a full-time DL responsibility to do day to day DL then we can consider it, otherwise it sounds like it adds a lot of hassle for not a lot of benefit.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:26 pm
by Cardinals
I'm not sure how it is relevant to a daily DL. It's just allowing the player to be activated midweek. Why should somebody lose a guy for a full 3 weeks if he comes off the DL on Monday for his MLB club? That makes little to no sense. I'm not advocating disabling players midweek, but if the GM wishes to send an MP, the only person that's more work for is said GM.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:48 pm
by Giants
Assuming of course that no one tries to sneak someone through without giving them the full two weeks, absolutely no chance of that happening.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:02 pm
by Cardinals
Pretty easy for the person to list who comes off the DL in the MP update as for the fix and for me or anybody to check.
How many people would even try to sneak anybody in? I'm really not seeing where you're coming from here.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:15 pm
by Giants
First of all, considering the roster mess that just happened whether or not someone might try to cheat or inadvertently make a mistake is a stupid question. It WILL happen. Losing the extra days at the end of a DL stay for the week is pretty much offset by gaining extra days for guys who are retroactively DL'ed. Like I said, I don't see the great benefit of the change your proposing.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:40 pm
by Cardinals
So because somebody comes off the DL on Sunday instead of Saturday he should be ineligible for an extra week? Sorry, that just baffles me.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:42 pm
by Cardinals
Also the only time you "gain" days is when the stay is longer than 2 weeks, otherwise it's pretty irrelevant since the 2 weeks has to be served regardless.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:28 pm
by Giants
True, but on the other hand you have situations where guys get DL'ed Sunday and then play the entire week, even though they haven't played in the previous five days in real life because of the injury. In any case, sounds like your alone here since none of the other ExCo members are jumping on this.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:38 pm
by Cardinals
Athletics wrote:True, but on the other hand you have situations where guys get DL'ed Sunday and then play the entire week, even though they haven't played in the previous five days in real life because of the injury. In any case, sounds like your alone here since none of the other ExCo members are jumping on this.
Doesn't look that way to me. See the IBC Forum thread.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:41 pm
by Giants
I think I might have misunderstood what you're proposing. If you're proposing that he can be activated during the Thursday DB then I'd be OK with that, I just don't like the idea of doing it every day of the week.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:14 am
by Cardinals
I don't really see the difference in being able to activate a player Thursday and not being able to Tuesday or Wednesday. What does everybody else here think? Obviously we know what Jake and I see here.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:11 am
by Dodgers
I don't think I'm sure what you two are talking about. If guys are only going on the DL on Sunday, then after 2 weeks it will always be Sunday. JP, you're saying if a guy stays on the DL for 19 days, he could be activated after the 19th day instead of the 21st?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:20 am
by Cardinals
Right, but it's not always about a player JUST spending 2 weeks on the DL. What about this example:
Jack goes on the DL Saturday April 5th. He is ineligible for the upcoming week.
Jack comes off the DL Sunday April 20th. He is ineligible for the upcoming week.
He spends three IBC weeks on the DL because of coming off the DL Sunday and not Saturday. A bit loony.