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Brett favre has, finally, retired. Personally I'm a little surprised he didn't give it one more go, but I do think it was time.

Guess he realized the Packers overachieved, and figured he might as go out playing the NFC Championship.

They'll be playing a much tougher schedule, he'll be a year older, the Vikings will be improved, Martz is out of Detroit, there was no way he would replicate his 2007 success. A wise move.

I don't think Martz was the problem in Detroit, I think the bigger issue was that Jon Kitna isn't good enough.

I'm really starting to hate this "finally" or "a wise move" because of reasons that have nothing to do with their desire to play or he "should have" crap about athletes. In my lifetime people have said that shit about guys like Emmitt Smith, Michael Jordan, Brett Favre, etc. Why the hell can't they decide when they are done playing? If a team is willing to take them, and they still want to play the sport, haven't those guys earned the right to let them finish their careers on THEIR accord?

When athletes like Strahan and Favre reach the ages they have, and the team is willing to put up with them, can't they take time to see if their body can still recover from the absolute beating of a season they just went through?

If Favre or Strahan were really holding the Pack or Giants hostage by waiting, then they should have just cut the cord. Everyone's sitting around and complaining, except the actual teams themselves. Shouldn't that say something?

As much crap as Favre and Strahan received last off-season, each put together absolutely phenomenal seasons and were instrumental in leading their teams to successes literally NO ONE predicted in the pre-season.

How fucking selfish can someone be to tell Brett Favre that he should retire? How goddamn selfish were we to tell MJ that he shouldn't have gone to the Wizards? For those of us lucky enough to be doing what we love to do - imagine being 35 and having people tell you that you can't do it anymore? That you shouldn't do it anymore - not our bosses, mind you - but enough people that it makes the actual job itself more stressful then it should and they are ruining what you love to do? How much would that fucking suck?

I want to make sure my two cents on this is congratulations to him - he played the game with courage, toughness, tenacity, and a joy that very few others have. He excelled for most of his career, and then, when the chips were down he showed us just how amazing his resilience is. He played sick and he played hurt - mentally and physically. He persevered through obstacle after obstacle (he's not good enough, he's not smart enough, his addiction, his father's death, his wife's cancer, and he's not good enough again), all the while showing a childlike love for what he was doing. He was the consumate teammate and leader, and is revered by everyone he played with and against. He is a Super Bowl champion, and one of the greatest players to ever step on the playing field.

When I have a son someday, I'm going to show him film of Brett Favre, Derek Jeter, and Chris Paul (my new obsession). They are not the three best at their sport - but they are the three that have competed the right way, and persevered through every challenge (whether self-imposed or not) that they have been presented - and have done it with dignity and a smile.

Even as a Giants fan, Brett Favre was my favorite player - and it's going to be very difficult to see Aaron Rodgers behind center for the Pack next year.

Coming from a Vikes fan, its about time he quit. Although I did want to see his ironman streak get snapped before he retired but oh well.

Royals wrote:I'm really starting to hate this "finally" or "a wise move" because of reasons that have nothing to do with their desire to play or he "should have" crap about athletes. In my lifetime people have said that shit about guys like Emmitt Smith, Michael Jordan, Brett Favre, etc. Why the hell can't they decide when they are done playing? If a team is willing to take them, and they still want to play the sport, haven't those guys earned the right to let them finish their careers on THEIR accord?

When athletes like Strahan and Favre reach the ages they have, and the team is willing to put up with them, can't they take time to see if their body can still recover from the absolute beating of a season they just went through?

If Favre or Strahan were really holding the Pack or Giants hostage by waiting, then they should have just cut the cord. Everyone's sitting around and complaining, except the actual teams themselves. Shouldn't that say something?

As much crap as Favre and Strahan received last off-season, each put together absolutely phenomenal seasons and were instrumental in leading their teams to successes literally NO ONE predicted in the pre-season.

How fucking selfish can someone be to tell Brett Favre that he should retire? How goddamn selfish were we to tell MJ that he shouldn't have gone to the Wizards? For those of us lucky enough to be doing what we love to do - imagine being 35 and having people tell you that you can't do it anymore? That you shouldn't do it anymore - not our bosses, mind you - but enough people that it makes the actual job itself more stressful then it should and they are ruining what you love to do? How much would that fucking suck?

I want to make sure my two cents on this is congratulations to him - he played the game with courage, toughness, tenacity, and a joy that very few others have. He excelled for most of his career, and then, when the chips were down he showed us just how amazing his resilience is. He played sick and he played hurt - mentally and physically. He persevered through obstacle after obstacle (he's not good enough, he's not smart enough, his addiction, his father's death, his wife's cancer, and he's not good enough again), all the while showing a childlike love for what he was doing. He was the consumate teammate and leader, and is revered by everyone he played with and against. He is a Super Bowl champion, and one of the greatest players to ever step on the playing field.

When I have a son someday, I'm going to show him film of Brett Favre, Derek Jeter, and Chris Paul (my new obsession). They are not the three best at their sport - but they are the three that have competed the right way, and persevered through every challenge (whether self-imposed or not) that they have been presented - and have done it with dignity and a smile.

Even as a Giants fan, Brett Favre was my favorite player - and it's going to be very difficult to see Aaron Rodgers behind center for the Pack next year.

I'm confused, I can't say it's a wise move because...? Do I need to add "IN MY OPINION" before it? Clearly it's my opinion if I'm stating it.

He would not replicate his 07 campaign next year. Could he? possibly, yeah. IN MY OPINION, he would not. Therefore, IN MY OPINION, he made a wise move by retiring on one of his better years in his career.

Well "in my opinion" is fine - but I'm pretty sure Favre never gave a shit about personal statistics, and he suffered through some bad years. I'm sure the Pack would MUCH rather have him then Rodgers next year. What did you see in Favre's play that makes you think he would fall off this year? Last year I saw the same cannon arm, and a much better decision-maker - and this year he would have all his receivers back, and Grant for a full season. Minnesota is still wildly inconsistent until they get a QB, the Bears are getting worse and worse, and the Lions sucked the second half of last year - making me believe the first half was a total mirage. People forget that the Pack is a VERY young team, with a very talented defense and improving offensive threat. They would have been tough again this year...now they have to hope Rodgers is ready.

Gotta give the kid the ball at some point, Favre can't play forever.

FWIW I scouted Rodgers pretty extensively when I was with the SaberCats (more as a learning exercise than because we thought he'd be an AFL guy), and I'm quite confident that he sucks balls. Now that I've said that expect him to challenge Manning and Brady for #1 fantasy QB honors next year.