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To all you fathers out there ...
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:18 am
by Padres
There's not one of you out there who wouldn't forego your own personal triumphs if your two sons could have it instead.
I'm sure it was worth the wait, Archie.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:59 am
by Yankees
Normally I hate the "Here's a shot of X in a corporate suite rooting on Y," and the fact that the TV station usually drills it straight into the ground (see Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo). Wasn't there something pretty awesome about the way Peyton was rooting for Eli though? His reactions were totally genuine, and never had the "bet I'm on TV, better look good," posturing that Simpson had the entire time, or the "I'm not gonna move regardless of what happens," that Giselle had.
He looked like a big brother that was genuinely proud of his little brother. I even think Brady's drive for the go-ahead TD after getting hit 20 times cemented his place above Peyton, but Peyton definitely rose a few notches in my book...
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:23 pm
by Dodgers
I firmly believe you can't raise a guy because of how he cheers when he's not playing.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:05 pm
by Yankees
I'm confused. You're saying I can't think better of a guy because of the way he handles himself when rooting for his little brother?
I'm not saying he's a better quarterback for rooting his little brother. I'm saying that in a game where Brady cemented his superiority as a football player over Peyton in my head, my opinion of Peyton as a person grew quite a bit.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:09 pm
by Dodgers
Royals wrote:I even think Brady's drive for the go-ahead TD after getting hit 20 times cemented his place above Peyton, but Peyton definitely rose a few notches in my book...
This sentence says nothing about your opinion of Peyton as a person. You're talking about how Brady is a better player than Peyton, then you change subject to say Peyton rose as a person? Wasn't clear to me at all.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:13 pm
by Yankees
I was simply saying that I wasn't changing my mind about who was a better player. In fact, I was saying it was more apparent then ever that Brady was. I'm saying that Peyton certainly rose a few levels in my book for the way he rooted for Eli. Eli had seen over and over again that Peyton was supportive, yet Peyton hadn't gone to Green Bay so I was suspicious. Peyton proved me dead wrong.
Re: To all you fathers out there ...
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:14 pm
by Royals
Mets wrote:There's not one of you out there who wouldn't forego your own personal triumphs if your two sons could have it instead.
I'm sure it was worth the wait, Archie.
How you phrased that left some ambiguity in what you actually mean. Lots of parents push their kids into achieving the dreams that they themselves were unable to achieve. This is, IMO, some of the worst kinds of parenting. A kid should be allowed to seek and achieve their own dreams, not be pushed to achieve what the parent could not.
Also, Brett, the reason Peyton skipped GB was that he said he felt like his presence had put too much pressure on his brother in the past (i believe he had said beforehand he would watch the game at home for that reason). there are lots of things I'd fault Peyton for (whoring himself to every sponsor on the planet for instance) but that isn't one of them.