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Rockies released Raylin 21-Heredia

Rockies released Fernando 21-Perez

WhiteSox signed Buddy Kennedy

Astros released Elias 22-Medina

Mariners released Johnathan 17-Rodriguez

Mariners released Sam 21-Bachman

Mariners released Logan 21-Workman

Mariners released Yilber 0-Diaz

Mariners signed Cole 20-Henry

Mariners signed Carlos 16-Vargas

Reds released Michael Lorenzen

Reds signed Jacob Waguespack

Reds released Trevor Brigden

Reds claimed Logan 21-Workman

Padres signed Fernando 21-Perez

Reds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:35 pm Reds signed Jacob Waguespack

Shouldnt Waguespack have to be bid on, or claimed thru waivers or something as he is coming back to the MLB, like if Bauer were to sign with an MLB team?

Royals wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:14 pm

Reds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:35 pm Reds signed Jacob Waguespack

Shouldnt Waguespack have to be bid on, or claimed thru waivers or something as he is coming back to the MLB, like if Bauer were to sign with an MLB team?

The ZiPs waiver period is concluded ... If Trevor Bauer signed tomorrow he'd be first come ...

Padres wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:03 pm

Royals wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:14 pm

Reds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:35 pm Reds signed Jacob Waguespack

Shouldnt Waguespack have to be bid on, or claimed thru waivers or something as he is coming back to the MLB, like if Bauer were to sign with an MLB team?

The ZiPs waiver period is concluded ... If Trevor Bauer signed tomorrow he'd be first come ...

Waguespack needs to be bid on. The rules state:

"ZiPS budgets will also be the tool to acquire players who leave the US to play elsewhere and return to an MLB team. These players are distinct from foreign players eligible for the draft (see IX Drafts). The same process described above in VII (2) will apply to foreign free agents. These foreign free agents will only be eligible for signing through the ZiPS bidding process in the offseason."

We are still in the offseason, so any player who signs from a foreign league is subject to ZiPS bidding. The thread for foreign players is open and will be used for any bids on these players.

Waguespack signed on January 15th. Admin posted on January 23rd: viewtopic.php?t=14145

It seems clear he was a free agent based on the fact he was already signed to a MLB team prior to the January 23rd waiver bidding period and went unclaimed.

Any repatriation signings with MLB or Milb teams after that date would be subject to the bidding process until the conclusion of our offseason.

RedSox wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:11 am Waguespack signed on January 15th. Admin posted on January 23rd: viewtopic.php?t=14145

It seems clear he was a free agent based on the fact he was already signed to a MLB team prior to the January 23rd waiver bidding period and went unclaimed.

Any repatriation signings with MLB or Milb teams after that date would be subject to the bidding process until the conclusion of our offseason.

Correct. He was already available and went unclaimed, and unbid on.

Marlins signed Yilber 0-Diaz

Marlins released Edgleen 22-Perez

Reds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:57 am

RedSox wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:11 am Waguespack signed on January 15th. Admin posted on January 23rd: viewtopic.php?t=14145

It seems clear he was a free agent based on the fact he was already signed to a MLB team prior to the January 23rd waiver bidding period and went unclaimed.

Any repatriation signings with MLB or Milb teams after that date would be subject to the bidding process until the conclusion of our offseason.

Correct. He was already available and went unclaimed, and unbid on.

Clarifying my earlier post -- Ken keeps him because he signed before the thread and was never posted for bidding. Exco is discussing other scenarios and hope to post more clarification soon.

I assumed it was like when teams are posted, it wasnt 24 hours from when they came out, it was 24 hours after being posted on this website.
I was actually waiting for him to be posted and I was going to bet on him. It doesnt matter much to me, just want the rule to be cleared up for future. Fine with whatever committee says is the correct way.

Guardians wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:30 am

Reds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:57 am

RedSox wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:11 am Waguespack signed on January 15th. Admin posted on January 23rd: viewtopic.php?t=14145

It seems clear he was a free agent based on the fact he was already signed to a MLB team prior to the January 23rd waiver bidding period and went unclaimed.

Any repatriation signings with MLB or Milb teams after that date would be subject to the bidding process until the conclusion of our offseason.

Correct. He was already available and went unclaimed, and unbid on.

Clarifying my earlier post -- Ken keeps him because he signed before the thread and was never posted for bidding. Exco is discussing other scenarios and hope to post more clarification soon.

Royals wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:26 am I assumed it was like when teams are posted, it wasnt 24 hours from when they came out, it was 24 hours after being posted on this website.
I was actually waiting for him to be posted and I was going to bet on him. It doesnt matter much to me, just want the rule to be cleared up for future. Fine with whatever committee says is the correct way.

The post (viewtopic.php?t=14145) regarding bidding on previously signed international players was pretty specific in stating they would be free agents after 24 hours.

There are a handful of guys who have signed with MLB teams (either major league or minor league deals) who came back to the States from foreign leagues. If you want to bid on any of them, post here. In 24 hours, they will become free agents


Waguespack was signed by a MLB team several days before it was posted making him a free agent by the time I signed him. I agree that we need to look at ways to deal with international players who may sign after the initial posting.