September Injuries

[Giants]

Here's my proposal for how to handle September injuries:

A player shall be ruled ineligible for games if they have missed more than one week of games, are listed as "out" on Rotoworld's injury report, and have been documented to suffer an injury that clearly disables them (e.g. broken bone, elbow/shoulder injury for a pitcher, high ankle sprain, post concussion syndrome) such that they would not be able to play even if it were the 7th game of the World Series. Each week a representative of the league will compile a list of the players who have not played the previous week, which will be posted on the ibcleague.com message board and also sent out in a leaguewide email. The onus will be placed on the GMs of the affected players to determine their status. All players who have not played the previous week shall be considered ineligible for the following week if no appeal is made to the league representative. Ineligibility continues until the week following the player's next appearance in a game, rather than an arbitrary two weeks. The league representative will rule the player eligible if there is any doubt as to whether the player would be available if the team needed him. Only if a GM does not file an appeal and continues to play the player in question, or plays that player in defiance of a denied appeal, shall the GM receive the appropriate DL penalty.

I think that wraps it all up nicely, let's get this issue settled.

[Royals]

Uhm, it seems to me that we should have a little bit of internal ExCo discussion before we should vote on anything.

[Giants]

Just trying to get shit done. I wasn't aware there was any disagreement.

[Royals]

Well i can't say i am in line with the current proposal and I believe Jim may have some different ideas as well.

[Giants]

Then let's discuss it. What do you want?

[Cardinals]

This really just needs to continue as a case by case basis. I think.

[Royals]

The system as it is has worked pretty well. The people complaining aren't GM's who are getting players disabled, it's largely Dan, who thought it was brand new, didn't understand the system and think it's a disaster waiting to happen. Perhaps it is, but 4 seasons of use have shown it to work pretty well.

[Rangers]

The system as it is has worked pretty well. The people complaining aren't GM's who are getting players disabled, it's largely Dan, who thought it was brand new, didn't understand the system and think it's a disaster waiting to happen. Perhaps it is, but 4 seasons of use have shown it to work pretty well.

I don't know. I haven't been around for all of it, but my sense has been that it's worked pretty well because guys have been cool about it and not made a big deal about it.

The fact is that there is no perfect solution to this, but I sure would prefer something with less subjectivity and not so little defined standard. I also want to echo what was said a couple of times by guys in the league thread, that we need to err on the lenient side. I feel like the only guys who should be DLed by us who aren't by MLB are those who are clearly unable to play and who don't play for most or all of September.

[Royals]

Most or all of a month? That's a long time Brett, and at what point do you make the call saying 'he's out'?
The list from before had 14 guys (Duncan is back) which is about 7 guys per week going on the DL, that seems like a pretty reasonable number, especially consider it's the end of the season and guys are banged up. I'm not suggesting any quota type system, just saying that what we've got doesn't seem to be DLing more guys than would be the norm.
If a guy has been out for a week in MLB, he should be out in the IBC, unless it's a clear case of being shut down early for the season because the team is out of it.
As for the case of Manny, Manny was clearly struggling, a lot, he needed to be shut down. I have no doubt in my mind that if it had been july instead of september, he'd have gone on the DL for his annual vacation.