DMB did a shitty job

RedSox · Post by **RedSox** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:03 pm

I was hoping for a projection for Matt Whitney. You'd think they would project the rule V guys because they could actually be in the bigs this year. Wouldn't that make more sense than doing a projection for an A ball OF like Cedric Hunter?

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:06 pm

I'm also surprised about many of the guys they left out. How about Javier Brito, who was a nice lefty killer for me last year despite having never gotten above high A. He spent last year in AA and then didn't project this year. They made some ridiculous assumptions (like Randy Winn as a platoon OF for the Giants), but what the hell is with making Ken Griffey non-playable against lefties? I also think they regressed Glavine way too much for getting rocked in his last start. What really bothered me were some of the reliever projections, and also how many guys just don't play to their projection (either above or below). Cordero and Trever Miller tend to way outpitch themselves in the sims I run, while Lowry is almost a given for a 6.00 ERA. I don't get it.

Orioles · Post by **Orioles** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:44 pm

I'm used to having a handful of disappointing pitcher projections (like Verlander's and Sheet's proj. every year), but what killed my team this year was DMB's extreme stinginess with some of the defensive ratings.

Jack Hannahan, 3B - over the last 2 seasons at AAA he's played 90 games at 2B and 27 at 1B compared to 101 total games at 3B b/w AAA and MLB over the same stretch. You'd think that might warrant at least some kind of rating at 2B.

Ben Broussard, 1B/OF - after several years of posting a high FPCT, and "zone rating" and "OOZ" numbers respectable enough to deserve an average to above average defensive rating at 1B, DMB gave Broussard a downright awful defensive rating at 1B (as well as in the OF). They gave a Fr/153 rating to a guy who as a regular at 1B posted fpcts of .994, .992, .989, .993. Seems like 153 would be a bit high, especially given how low of a range rating he got. Guess I have to look elsewhere for a defensive replacement for Papi.

Losing Crawford's CF rating and having no RF rating for Matsui were disappointing and hurt the squad, but I can't say either of those were unexpected, unlike Broussard and Hannahan.

Also not clear on how they determine the pitcher "durability" ratings. Micah Owings received a "Fr" Sdur rating, and no Rdur rating after a rookie season in which he threw 150 IP over 27 GS (5.5 IP/GS), and 2.2 out of the pen. While my youngsters (Gio and Ad. Miller), both yet to make their MLB debuts (including one with an inj. history like Miller's) both got Av/Av durability ratings. Makes little to no sense to me. Maybe v10 and working with BP will add a little transparency to stuff like def and dur ratings.

Also was pretty pissed they didn't project Bob McCrory, Chris Coghlan or Joe Savery, all of whom have a shot to debut by the end of the year.

Pirates · Post by **Pirates** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:51 pm

i was also confused how lars anderson who never played higher then A projected and Dexter Fowler didnt.

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:06 pm

Seriously. Blew my mind when I saw the Lars projection, I was trying to figure out how many things would have to happen for him to play in Boston this year (as compared to some of the guys who didn't project).

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:09 pm

Another one... jed Lowrie has played a total of two games at 3b. Two. While giving him a 3b defensive projection is handy, it's ridiculous. and making it his primary position is absurd.

BlueJays · Post by **BlueJays** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:26 am

Some I find rediculous:

Brandon Phillips only got an AV rating. He's 2nd in the NL only to Orlando Hudson(D'Backs) but its close. He should have gotten VG at the least.

Matt Belisle pitched 177.1 innings last year but only got about 40 in the sim.

Adam Dunn didn't get a 1b rating, despite having experience there and I'm pretty sure played there a game or two last year.

Some would argue Hanley getting an AV D rating? heh.

Cubs · Post by **Cubs** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:03 am

I don't understand how they chose who gets a projection and who doesn't. I had 5 SPs who pitched at high A or better in the minors last year without making it to the bigs. The only one who gets a projection (Chris Cody) spent most of the year in low A while the California League pitcher of the year - Brandon Hynick, and the other three (Madsen, Geer and Herrera) who spent their time in AA and AAA get left out.

Brian Barton not getting a projection is hard to believe. He spent all of last year at AAA, has a career OPS of .900 and was a rule V pick who was certain to make a major league roster. Duchsherer didn't get a starter rating despite the A's saying all winter they were going to try him out in the rotation.

DMB should've waited to release the disk if they were going to put out this inferior product.

Mets · Post by **Mets** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:19 am

Reds wrote:Some I find rediculous:

Matt Belisle pitched 177.1 innings last year but only got about 40 in the sim.

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What would you rather have...Belisle getting 200innings in a projection, or Cueto & Volquez both projecting in the rotation?