Spygate Part Deux

DBacks · Post by **DBacks** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:57 pm

RedSox wrote:I see, so you knew it was a joke but decided to make it sound like something sinister. I stand corrected, you're not an idiot, you're a jealous moron.

Again, no, you just don't understand the joke, and I'm beyond trying to explain it to you.

And jealous? Certainly not of you, and definitely not of the Patriots. Maybe a little of the Giants. In case you haven't heard, they won the Super Bowl.

Astros · Post by **Astros** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:39 pm

Oh come on Gabe, winning the Super Bowl doesn't matter! That's just icing on the cake

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:03 pm

That's just icing on the cake

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:48 pm

Yup, I'm sure you guys have an idea exactly what it's like being a Boston sports fan so of course you understand how Boston fans feel...

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:00 am

That's just icing on the cake

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Sorry man, ridiculous statements like that are just timeless...

I'm trying to get this straight, so please tell me if I'm wrong:

You would have rather gone 16-0, than win a Super Bowl?

Because, and I may be reading this totally wrong, what you were saying was that 16-0 was the perfect ingredient to make the cake, and the Super Bowl was only the icing. And who truly needs icing on the cake when we've got 16-0 superdough?

You know, Bren, you have single-handedly broken the will I had to only be proud of my team and not talk shit to Boston fans. (To all other Patriots fans, it was a hell of a game, this is only for Bren's dumb ass):

18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1

I can't wait to chant that shit at the first Yanks/Sawx game of '08...

18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1, 18-1

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:22 am

My friend, you'd be welcome to chant whatever you wanted to about the Patriots at a Yankees/Red Sox game. I'd just sit back, smile, and break out my 2007 World Series Champions t-shirt and get a hearty Year 2000 chant going. As big a football guy as I am (and seeing as how I'm trying to make a career out of it that's pretty huge), I'll take the World Series and the Yankee playoff chokings. Chanting about other sports is about as weak as it gets, though not as bad as an argument a Nets fan tried to start with me when I was in New Jersey for the Nets and Warriors where he wanted to talk shit about how New York was better than San Francisco even though we were watching teams from New Jersey and Oakland. Hey, if you were yelling about teams from East Rutherford and Foxboro during a game between teams from New York and Boston wouldn't you be doing the same thing? Anyway I know this is rambling on so what I really meant to say was:

Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000 Year 2000

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:29 am

I already addressed this when you first brought this up. You're looking at the context of one season, I'm looking at a larger context. A Superbowl is never the icing on the cake of a season. But a perfect season IS icing on the cake of a dynasty that won 3 superbowls in the last 7 years. As a Boston sports fan 2 World Series titles in the last 4 and 3 SB wins in the last 7, I could certainly live with 20 more years without seeing either of those teams winning a title. That was true before this season and it remains true today. Thus, yes, a perfect season would have been icing on the cake.

But hey, I can understand you not being able to wrap your head around anything longer than the latest 30 second soundbite like the rest of the ADD MTV generation generated monkeys in the country.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:44 am

Bren, I guess I can understand where you're coming from on the "it's icing on the cake" and I realize that's your approach. It's wrong. You should always want your team to win and it should hurt when they get close and don't. If it doesn't, then in my opinion, something's wrong. Maybe you didn't root hard enough, though I doubt that seeing as what you've previously said. You don't have any emotional detachment disorders do you? I mean how can't you be upset when your team loses the Super Bowl as a heavy favorite?

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:58 am

Precisely Shawn - none of my friends who weren't Giants/Pats fans couldn't understand why I locked myself into my room on Saturday night and was way too nervous to go it. "Your team's supposed to/are going to lose. Why not just enjoy it?"

How in the f is a Super Bowl a 30 second soundbite? That's the entire goal of playing football...

And, Jake, if you think a New York sports seperates his victories over Boston, or a Boston fan truly seperates his victories over the New York scene - you clearly don't live in either New England/New York/New Jersey. That first Yanks/Sox game is going to be a "18-1" "Year 2000" echo for the entire game. That's what makes this rivalry fun - the extent of its reach, and the popularity of its teams.

By the way, if anyone watched the parade - STRAHAN FOR PRESIDENT!

Pirates · Post by **Pirates** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:56 am

I watched this game with about 40 patriot fans at Umass and the entire time they would chant "Yankees Suck" and everytime the pats got a 1st down the entire room acted like they just won the superbowl.

Dodgers · Post by **Dodgers** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:57 pm

If the steroids revelation about the Yankees tainted their late 90s dynasty, if this Rams tape turns out to be true, that has to taint the Patriots dynasty in exactly the same way right? Would be interesting to see how all those Sox fans who were all over the Yankees try to spin it as if the Pats did nothing wrong.

Giants · Post by **Giants** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:50 pm

Z, its pretty obvious that I'm part of the West Coast contingent of Boston fans. My point was more related to the fact that Boston fans brought the rivalry to football when we couldn't compete in baseball, but now we own baseball and that's a hell of a lot more satisfying.

Yankees · Post by **Yankees** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:21 pm

Hey, trust me, I understand, roles are switched...

Athletics · Post by **Athletics** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:08 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nfl

Very funny read, this coming from a Boston sports fan.

Royals · Post by **Royals** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:57 pm

Dodgers wrote:Bren, I guess I can understand where you're coming from on the "it's icing on the cake" and I realize that's your approach. It's wrong. You should always want your team to win and it should hurt when they get close and don't. If it doesn't, then in my opinion, something's wrong. Maybe you didn't root hard enough, though I doubt that seeing as what you've previously said. You don't have any emotional detachment disorders do you? I mean how can't you be upset when your team loses the Super Bowl as a heavy favorite?

I'm not saying I didn't want the Pats to win. Nor that I didn't go to bed Sunday night disappointed, shocked and a little numbed by what had happened. But I woke up the next morning and the sun had still risen, the Sox were still reigning champs (which means FAR more to me), the Pats still had their dynasty (some would argue it's over, I think we'll only know that for sure when we look back 10 years from now). life as a Boston sports fan is STILL pretty damn good.
As for emotional detachment disorders... well, try being a Sox (and Patriots) fan and coming to expect disappointment every season. It's a lot easier to deal with that disappointment when you've got that kind of history. We've had a FANTASTIC run lately, but that emotional training is still there. This was probably the first time I EXPECTED the Pats to win going into game day. A Dynasty and 18-0 will do that.